Sanden Totten (@sandentotten), from KPCC, Bill Nye Saves the World, and the Brains On! podcast, drops by to share some Pitchfork Pear Cider from Sonoma Cider and chat about his career in science journalism, getting into punk, and what he loves about science. A call to Chad Daniels starts things off.

Music at the end from the Riverboat Gamblers with Good Veins.

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