105 – Animal Treatment with Paul Shapiro pt. 1

Paul Shapiro (@PaulHShapiro), the Vice President of Policy Engagement for the Humane Society of the United States, joins Dave via skype to chat about our current standards for animal wellness, advancements we can make, and the potential viability of clean meat in the future. A chat with Sinead Savage starts things off.

Music at the end by the late, great Don Williams with Good Ole Boys Like Me.